Jump to content


  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Community Reputation

24 Excellent


About fenrislorsrai

  • Rank
    Shadow Master

Contact Methods

  • Website URL

Profile Information

  • Gender
  • Location
    Bethel, CT

Recent Profile Visitors

5,239 profile views
  1. Felidae

    The entire film is uploaded on Youtube in chunks, so you can view it online, no problem. I watched it that way about a month ago and it was a relatively good quality upload.
  2. Prom

    Somewhere we have photos from my junior prom of me and my date sitting around reading Deadlands while waiting for my hair to dry before getting dressed. I had a good time at both junior and senior. Much more amusing was the run up to prom. I went to an vocational agricultural school which meant when it came time to bring in the hay, everybody helped. It was also about an 8 to 1 ratio of girls to guys in the agricultural section, which meant the girls didn't get out of the heavy lifting part of flinging 80 pounds hay bales. Anyway, haying ended up right before prom, so girls didn't want to screw up tans for their sleeveless dresses... so a lot of them stripped down to pushup bras for haying. Yes, picture that, a field full of halfnaked girl heaving hay bales the two days before prom... We're lucky the poor boys didn't drive the combine into a ditch confronted with that much cleavage.
  3. The Drop of the oWoD from an uncommon perspective

    By and large the whole metaplot issue could have been dealt with by an annual PDF posted on the website. Post it at the end of the year before folks left on break and it would give fans something to chew on for holidays. All it would need was a brief summary (much like the ToJ ticker's blurbs) with a line about the metaplot in rough chronological order for the year with a note as to which book the long description appeared in. A page probably would have managed to cover the highlights for the big games. It would have worked well as a cheat sheet for people confused by the metaplot and probably wouldn't have sold some more books as folks went "a-ha, I was wondering where that info was!" It's basically be a really cheap marketing tool. I wouldn't be surprised if they had something similar floating around the office for use by the developers so they could keep straight when what happened. basically you'd tell the developers to cough up their postit note stash so an intern could put the info on 'em on one page.
  4. The Six Most Terrifying Foods

    I can add one to the ick factor. it's not that bad in and of itself, but the preparation is what gets you, as with many of these scary foods. Kava isn't too awful in and of itself. Go outside. Find some good mulch, some crushed leaves, or just some really good dirt. Sniff it. That is what kava tastes like, what really good mulch smells like. (good mulch actually smells pretty good, so its not too awful) Now you grind this up and add it to water and drink it. Done that way it has a gritty texture, like you face planted on the beach. And then it turns your throat and tongue numb. I got to drink this in anthropology class. Hooray for the professor giving us drugs! This isn't too awful. I had kava that was commercial ground with a machine. However, the "best" method for the strongest brew involves someone peelsingchunks off the root, chewing them, and then spitting them into a large ceremonial bowl. Mmmmm, all the joy of mulch and sand with the added bonus of someone else's saliva!
  5. The Six Most Terrifying Foods

    Imagine something the consistency of cranberry sauce. The cheap kind. With the lines in it from the can. Now make it organ meat colored. That's potted meat food product. Gah. College friend used to eat that when she ran out of points on her meal plan. We'd give her points off our plan just so she wouldn't eat it near us.
  6. The Six Most Terrifying Foods

    The huitlacoche looks a hell of a lot like an engorged tick. It just lacks the twitching little legs. This in no ways makes this any way more appetizing.
  7. The Library of Darkness

    Had a busy couple weeks reading cause I was spending a large amount of time sitting around. William Kotzwinkle- Dr. Rat- animal experimentation and the animal uprising at end of the world David Robbins- The Wrath- ancient egyptian plague found in tomb turns everybody into flesh eating monsters. And we appear to have killer anubis on cover. This will be awesome! bah, taunting me with flesh eating jackal people and instead I just get a version of rabies. booooooooo! and the karate master does not boot nearly enough flesh eating rabies people in the head. If you're going to include karate guy, there needs to be way more ass kicking! After that mess, was time for something decent. Charlaine Harris- first 7 Sookie Stackhouse books- Reread. like Anite Blake before it became the festival of porn. Vampires publically exist, werecritters and witches exist but are in hiding. Main character is a telepathic barmaid from Louissiana. Everybody wants a piece of that. Read my rivals mind? so there! Gael Baudino- Dragonsword trilogy- rereading. Hadn't read this since high school, and I read them out of order. doh! Modern people sucked into arthurian era Britain. Throws in stuff about Vietnam, Kent state, and the Holy Grail. Both characters sucked in are archeologists specializing in that era. I'd give a longer explanation about what the heck Kent state and Vietnam had to do with King Arthur, but kind of blows the plot.
  8. Tea Bag Etiquette

    I'll agree. Most of them commercial blends taste like hell. In general most of them seem like a perfectly good way to ruin a cup of milk... For those that like to try their hand at mixing their own tea, a good one for colds is anise. You'll have to make a trip to the spice aisle and get yourself container of anise seeds (also sold as fennel seed in the US) Put about a spoonful in two cups or so of water (enough for a pot of tea). Boil gently for about 10 minutes. It'll leave it a slightly greenish color. Now make with a nice black tea as normal. It's licorice flavored. You probably want a little sugar or honey in it, but don't overdo it. Does wonders for your sinuses. It particularly good if you're having trouble sleeping because you're waking up coughing cause your sinuses are draining down your throat.
  9. Wed.s is HALLOWEEN! What are you going to do!

    I move the skull collection outdoors for the evening and give any of the kids brave enough to schlep 200 yard back through the dark candy. And books. I own a book store so I have spare kids creepy crawly books coming out my ears. So they can have some scary books to keep them up all night, just in case the sugar high didn't do it. And some extremely not scary board books for the wee little ones. The big kids can have "My teacher Ate my Brain". The wee little ones can have something like "It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown." No sense giving toddlers nightmares. The skull were quite enough. And then I'll probably walk the dog.
  10. whats with women?

    Ah, the relative of my "Let me help you" sign. I apparently have a floating sign over my head saying "yes, I work here and am a native. Please ask me for directions." It doesn't matter how unlike the employees uniforms what I'm wearing is, people ask anyway. And we'll not even count how many people ask me for directions. I actually had people pull over at one point (while walking dog with world_dancer) and ask for directions to the gay bar! I guess I am non threatening and like I know what I'm doing.
  11. Millennial Horrors of White Wolf Marketing

    There's an explanation for the whole Pepsi challenge in either "why we Buy: the Science of Shopping" (underhill) or "blink" (Gladwell) and I forget which on it is. Either is an excellent read. Anyway, the way the "Pepsi challenge" worked was it was a sip test. If asked between to choose between two sweet items just on one mouthful (the sip test) people willl generally choose the sweeter item. Pepsi is sweeter than coke, so could almost always beat it on a sip test. However, if they're sitting and drinking a whole can of it, you probably want a taste other than just sugar. (or high fructose corn syrup) Carbonated brown water with more sugar than pepsi could probably beat it on a sip test... but nobody would want to drink a whole can of nothing but sugar with no other flavor. Unless it was really, really well marketed. Bottled water is another example of something sold almost entirely on the basis of marketing. A lot of bottled waters are really just filtered tap water. They filter out any locally occuring minerals that might give it a different taste, then bottle it up. It's really just the local water in a fancy bottle. Dasani and Aquafina are prime examples. You can see longer article about bottled water trade here: http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/117/fe...n-a-bottle.html
  12. Rage events at FurFright

    Rage-y goodness at FurFright in Waterbury, CT October 19th-21st. http://www.furfright.org Plus a happy promo video! Demos: Players 8 Friday: 7:00 pm -9:00 pm Sunday: 1:30 pm -3:30 pm Tourney: Players: No limit Saturday: 7:00 pm - 10:00 pm Rage against the dying of the light! Gaia is dying. The Apocalypse is here. Will you fall defending here or die a coward's death? Will your pack live in legend as the ones who save the world, or those who betrayed it? Is today a good day to die? Come to the demo and learn the ropes of this CCG of savage werewolf combat. Then come to the tourney to test your skills. Cards provided for new players. Experienced players are welcome to stop by for a casual game. Lots more games and activities, but I'm running the Rage stuff, so that's what I'm pimping. If you're in the area and don't know what to do with yourself this weekend, come to the con!
  13. Millennial Horrors of White Wolf Marketing

    Could we at the very least not swear? Let us put this another way. Marketing is all about perception. Doesn't matter what it is, marketing wraps it up pretty to make people buy stuff they don't need. Staples don't get advertised. You don't see ads for sugar, flour, nails, lumber, etc. Things that are commodities that really you either need or you don't. Things that are semi-necessary but there's options, you see some advertising for slightly higher end items of staples. Things like higher grades of gas, sneakers, cereal. Then you get into the pure luxury items that are NOT necessary, including RPGs. Those are sold largely on perception. But I'll use an example of marketing that's a little clearer. Vodka. By definition its a colorless, tasteless alcohol. There should be no difference between a high end brand and cheap rotgut. But you'll get drinkers that insist there's a difference in taste. But when doing a blind taste test, can't pick their favorite brand out of a lineup. it's pure marketing. The ads, the design on the bottle, the way it's presented, etc. Anyone that's tried to feed a grouchy kid (or finicky dog) knows the presentation trick. "Look, its an airplane! Oooh, lookit, lookit! VROOOM!" It still the same squishy mess, but the presentation is better. So what's this have to do with WW? They're selling what amounts to a luxury product. People are a lot more saavy than they used to be. We're grown up with marketing bombarding us. Consumer Reports says the average american sees 250 ads per day. The Union of Concerned Scientists puts that number around 3000! In many cases they've become invisible. Consumers are so inundated with them, that they become visual noise and are tuned out. Sometime however, an ad is so jarring it gets our attention in a negative way. That's what this thread is about. Saavy consumers are far better at sensing when they're being manipulated and its so pervasive, it makes people MAD. With the ad saturation out there, one of the hottest marketting trends is trying to crack word of mouth. That's why advertisers are jumping all over social networking sites. It is the most effective and most trusted form of building market share. I've done surveys a couple different times tracking how gamers choose games. Overwhelmingly its by word of mouth. It's generally way easier to sell more product to an existing customer than actually get a new one. because gaming is inherently social, you NEED another player to play the game. Social networking is even more important. Pissed off core customer can drive away potential new ones OR recruit new ones. I'll use example from studies I did. I was actually looking at the spread of superstitions among groups. Gamers were great since there's lot of superstitions involving dice. There's lots. One very unusual one in particular, I could trace all but ONE respondent that said they did this to having contact with one gamer, the apparent originator. Not everyone had direct contact, but some had contact through a contact. You could trace that one habit from CT, to NY, to Ohio, to Arizona. Four different groups, four different states, all traceable to direct or indirect contact with ONE gamer. And superstitions aren't exactly something that are directly talked about. Consider how much power that gamer has been speaking good or ill of a game the rest hadn't yet formed an opinion of. These, people, here on the forum, are like that one person in the superstition study. They're very motivated by the product. They can be a marketers best friend... or worst nightmare. What you are getting now, long drawn out freeform response from your core audience about what worked and didn't work as marketing, is the sort of thing that is absolute gold for a marketing department. If they commissioned a company to gather the data, it'd be thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars. Ads that pissed off your hard core gamers and are still remembered 4-6 years later have some serious staying power and its not the good kind. Consider if the marketing had been so good that they were saying NICE things about the product 4-6 years later. Yes, it is all about perception. And that is incredibly VALUABLE information. This is totally safe bitching because its about a defunct product. Can't hurt the sales. However, the marketing department can gain a hell of a lot of info by learning not just that "this ad didn't work" but WHY it didn't work.
  14. Millennial Horrors of White Wolf Marketing

    People are getting very snippy. It's very easy to take what people type as far more critical than intended. The internet strips away all the body language and vocal intonation that provide context for what's said. 1. Write your rebuttal 2. Do NOT hit "add reply" 3. Get up and go do something for at least five minutes. Open another window to read a different thread, go get a cup of coffee, pet the dog, etc. 4. Now reread your post. 5. Edit it to make it clearer and less combative sounding. 6. Now you may post. That brief walk away gives you a chance to come back and read stuff over and see where parts seem unnecessarily harsh and are likely to cause to make people respond poorly. Head off the fight before it starts! Anyway, back to topic... Sometimes it seems the marketing department got only a paragraph about what they were designing ads for. And then they made stuff up. Maybe this was because they were having early ads done outside company, but man... I'd be mad if I bought Vampire based on the ad in attachment. Full color ad appearing in Immortal Eyes: the Toybox for second ed vampire, circa 1995. Someone apparently forgot to tell the marketing department that WoD vampires don't do sex. Yes, I get the idea, phrase is catchy, but if I bought the book based on that sex, blood, and rock and roll, well... I'd get one of them. I may scan some from the actual "millenial" era later. Some of them induce serious headscratching.
  15. Millennial Horrors of White Wolf Marketing

    One of the general failings that WW had was that 'house' ads often appeared in illogical places aimed at the wrong people. The best ad in the world will fail if it's aimed at wrong market. You don't advertise products for "feminine problems" in a venue dominated by men. A lot of the problems with the marketing seems to be the marketing staff couldn't figure out that changing their pitch to match the venue was a good idea! Here's some examples of ad copy for the Rage CCG from around 199-1996 and where they were found. Rage had all kinds of issues with bad marketing, but I'll focus on ads for now. I suspect virtually everyone involved with these items has since gone elsewhere. House ad for Limited ed http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/185638 Found in Changeling 1st ed around 1995. Note the ad copy mentions "security holograms". WTF? THIS is a selling point? And since they were putting this in a changeling product, they could have tried a LITTLE harder and included Fianna or even the Faerie Kin card. Make some vague connection to the product it appeared in. About the only thing right here is that they included a card with DiTerlizzi art, so it sort of matched the art style. The other five pieces of art... not so much. House ad for Wyrm http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/185631?size=large Appears in Immortal Eyes: The Toybox. This same image was used on posters and the card boxes and packs... but does not appear on a card. Okay, I get it, you're printing the color ads in Changeling because its in color. But it really doesn't seem to make much sense with having been put in Immortal Eyes: the Toybox. Yes, out at same time, but soooooooo doesn't match theme, subject matter, art style, really anything. Had I been doing this ad, I would have gone for something involving fomori. Yes, technically different in the two games, but more likely to catch the eye than the Nexus Crawler here. House ad for Legacy of the Tribes (the final Rage set) http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/185627?size=large appears in Rage Across the World, Volume 1. Now I own almost all of the Werewolf the Apocalypse books and guess what, this is pretty well the only Werewolf book with a house ad for Rage! They're on the fifth and final set before it occurs to marketing "maybe we should advertise the card game about werewolves to the people playing the werewolf game." Yes, the ad really is that dark Full color posters showing off the fight between Albrecht and Margrave are much nicer. Here you can barely tell that's who's in the fight! Now Rage had a scad of other marketing and production problems, but here's three examples of misaimed or badly produced marketing. This isn't the only example of greyscaled ads that should have been in full color. If the majority of your internal advertising will be done in black and white, produce a seperate black and white ad campaign! In many cases, all they would have had to do with these was use the same art as uncolored linework and it would have looked great! You're already paying the artist and probably got proofs submitted to the art department at that stage anyway. Using them instead of greying out the full color ad would look better. Though for a perfect example of bad transition from full color to greyscale, flip through some of your books from 1996-97 and find a house ad for Werewolf: Wild West. ARG! Greyscaled into illegibility! ARG! All that great black and white interior art and this is what you do!? ARG!